I've seen professionals with 40 years experience ruin a water based applicationtwice. I'm sorry you felt diminished. Each to their own. p.s. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! Natural came in too natural or raw (though thats what I thought I wanted). I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. Then the next day a coat of finish. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. One that I just came up was someone who posted a picture of their island door with Bona NaturalSeal. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? Can you add some white to the Renner System? Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. Im torn between satin and matte, We didn't move in yet so I cannot comment on it . No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. Make sure your floor guys are real professionals and have experience using Bona. Never to be heard from again. Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. You can get a natural matte finish in medium- light tones with the colors mist, natural, white 5%, white, and cotton white. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Also, will the Bona Nordic take the white oak lighter at all or darker? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. For the finish, use a water-based product, not an oil-based product which can yellow from sun exposure over time. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Sigh. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. And rubio makes a treatment for acid stains. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. Once you and your professional shake hands and write a contract that's when they come in and start the job. WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. I got the hardwax sampler of--I think--16 colors? How 'cheap' do you want to go with something that important? The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. The 'big boys' of the finishing industry are 2-3 times more expensive than DuraSeal (and for good reason) which means the professionals will make less money. Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. They did a great job. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? I have a dog that has an occasional accident. Please contact us if we can be of further help. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). You can see how the quartz is not as white as the countertop. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. You can use Poloplaz Pearl sealer with Endure or Pallmann's Pall-x white seal and Pall-x Pure. It was light and made the room appear larger. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? Could my response be taken incorrectly? Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. Great photos and beautiful floors! If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) Yes they can be 'walked on' after 3 daysbut moving furniture in is not ideal until 5 days have passed. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). Nice, eh?! We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. Streetshoe by basics + their stain line. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. The tub area is ok -but Im glad I didnt get it in the kitchen. Please convince me not to settle with maple. I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? Is this permissible to use on cabinets. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. Use two coats of natural seal and two coats of naturale. The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. Granite and Quartzite have completely different make-ups. Not the best lighting. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. 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My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. The 'raw' look is a special look. We also added the clerestory windows like you did. If, Bona Mega is your budget. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. All the questions and answers have been helpful to me when I have come looking, so I wanted to post photos from today that will possibly help others choose. So far, this seems to be going well. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. Don't disagree with you at all. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. The floor guys made custom floor vents. :). Gravity works. Anyway, good luck. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. Thank you so much! If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. But that's just a quick guess. Did you put your deposit down on a charge card? And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. It seems like we are the first to ask for the white oak with all the cabinet makers in our area. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. Here are some of my samples. I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. The water-based products are also much easier to work with. WebBona NaturalSeal is designed to be the foundation or first coat of a three-coat water-based system, so dont just use it for all your layers, thinking you are being clever and saving money. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? Ask for Bona Mega One. Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. The pillow is from our sofa. (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. You only need an inch. 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! See the before and afters and why we chose this color. But that's all it does. More great information. We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. Looking at your photos, I love the look of your kitchen. And all the answers. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. Every client after that training will pay extra for his/her expertise. Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. Our floors were recently finished I havent seen them yet. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Choosing finish on white oak floor. Our hardwood installer actually did one coat sealant last Friday, then a coat of finish later in the day, then Saturday did another coat of finish. Curtains will block the bookcase. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. Heres a photo of our family room. It doesn't make sense. Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. I have about 735 sf. The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. Use natural seal. Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen?

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